Our deepest sympathy, prayers and friendship to the people of London

I believe it is called "War". We drop tons of ordinance on other nations cities and we scream bloody murder when the enemy returns fire.
If you don't want them doing things like this to us, don't invade other nations and impose our godless decadence upon them. They are over here because we are over there.

Bernie:

I think it's way more complex than that...Your view suggests that we have way more enemies than I believe is the case. There is a solid group that has been radicalized by the Iraq War--clearly that war was a strategic as well as a moral blunder; but certainly that doesn't turn this into an us against them war of the West and Islam--not even all radical Muslims are terrorists. The people who did this in London are terrorists and I still believe there are relatively few of those folks on the planet.

FP

The more you try to spread western decadence over there, the more enemies you will make. As far as terrorism goes, all is fair in love and war.
If it is ok for us to drop tons of bombs on cities killing civilians by the hundreds if not thousands, then I cannot blame them for giving a few pounds of well placed C-4 back. One man's terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. When we kill civilians, its called strategic bombing. When they kill our civilians, its called terrorism.

Bernie:

Surely you don't mean to suggest that you approve of the London bombing--that's where your argument leads. I disagree profoundly! I don't believe any American bombing was done with purpose of killing civilians--as this bombing clearly was. I doubt that many people on this site would agree with you..Or is that your purpose, to try to goad someone into agreeing with your rather disturbing ideas that terrorism is an acceptable form of war? How awful if that is why you come to this place of peacemakers--I certainly hope not. Terrorism in the form of indiscriminate killing of civilians can never be sanctioned morally-never. Period.

FP

Bill Ckintons bombing of Belgrade was the largest deliberate slaughter of civilians since Hiroshima or Nagasaki. Sorry, but we DO target civilians all the time! We do it with missiles, bombs, and rockets. I cannot blame the enemy for giving us what we have been dishing out. If it is ok for us to burn over 30,000 civilians alive from the air (As we did in Tokyo) We have no moral high ground.

We simply disagree on your point-no one has completely clean hands when we fail to make peace possible, but I think President Clinton's intentions included stopping a genocide--that is a "just cause" for war if there ever was one.

FP

Stopping genocide with genocide? Since when is retaliating against the enemies family when you are too afraid to fight him? The only difference between Clinton and Bin Laden is method of delivery.

Bernie,

I think that you rush to assume that we all seem to approve of the US's actions in the war against terror. We are participating in and continueing a cycle of violence. As a country founded on the values we are founded on, we should feel morally compelled to be the ones to break the cycle.

What happened in London was terrorism. What we are doing in Iraq is an unjust war that we trapped ourselves and the people of Iraq in.

FP,

Are you using the horror at the bombings in London and compassion for it's victims simply to make a political statement against the Bush administration? If so that is extremely disrespectful of both the Iraqi and English peoples!

The people of Iraq suffered greatly under Sadam Hussein, with hundreds of thousands dying. Not only did he torture and kill many of his own people more than one million individuals died in unjust wars he conducted against his neighbors.

Continued unrest in Iraq is the responsibility of the Iraqi people. Our soilders are dying and billions of dollars are being spent to give the Iraqi people a just and prosperous society.

Those who oppose this are murdering and terrorizing the population in their attempt to setup a government that will make Sadam's look like a Sunday picnic. They find solace in websites like yours that slam President Bush and America!

Sure, we need to maintain America's high standards but let's not use that as an excuse to condone the horrific actions of Islam.It is utterly apalling the lack of even handedness on this website.

You will completely loose credibility with all save those who already share your bias.

Mark:

No. I am offering my prayers and friendship to the people of London, and respecting the statement of peacemakers from both Christian and Muslim groups in the UK. Who said anything about Bush?

FP

The only thing FP said even approaching Bush (in his post) was "We pray that we do all that we can to be peacemakers in a world too filled with hatred, violence and war."

If it is detrimental to the credibility of any Christian to pray for peace, then I say credibility be damned.

"Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called Sons of God."

There is no justification for violent acts against a citizen population. Just because one side or the other does it does not justify retaliation on that scale. It is simply barbaric.

Just because you disagree with how our leadership conducts this war does not justify the act of attacking civillians. Instead of going "I told you so!" when disaster strikes, pray for peace. Pray for healing. Pray for renewal.

Bernie

Take everything and flip it 180 degrees and then your comments will have some congruence with reality.

I suppose thousands of Americans, as well as citizens of other countries, gruesomely killed in September 2001, all for being guilty of reporting to work; Is a response to invading Iraq?